Yeah, I agree Mike and Dani,

It seems there is no bar level at all anymore and the majority of them are not even true JV's. Back in the day you actually had to qualify to in order to do a "true JV", now everyone and their dog, "thinks they are doing a JV", when in reality, all they're doing is recruiting affiliates for said "JV owner". Man, getting good affiliates can sometimes be problematic, but it appears to have become a pretty desparate market lol I used to get choked when people sold JV hot lists with all of our information in them and still probably would if someone started doing that again but now it's affiliate mahem disguised as a "JV". Some more old timers need to come out of the wood work